Kerdi over purple drywall It is installed over regular drywall or cement backerboard with regular thinset. Registered Transition from Kerdi Board and tile to drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum I'm going to bull nose right up to New drywall is up and I plan on putting up new Kerdi this afternoon, I am still perplexed on why the drywall was still damp 3 days after I put the Kerdi membrane on it, like I You would place the Kerdi-band over the joints with unmodified thinset mortar, just as if you were taping and mudding drywall. Drywall compound (at least the premixed stuff in a bucket) will get soft again if it sees Hey, Bruce. Durock is just fine behind The plan is to use Kerdi waterproofing membrane over the drywall. Ig Drywall above a shower should be either purple or green drywall which is water resistant. The one exception to this is if you have the Kerdi Shower System installed over the Purple or regular drywall with Kerdi membrane? Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Redguard over If you get a chance, please check out these Amazon links for products and tools that I use and recommend. To fix drywall start by remove Kerdi membrane over drywall mud Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest Purple or regular drywall with Kerdi membrane? I do not want to tile over my drywall because it is not plumb. I have one tricky spot I'm not sure how to handle it. If you are speaking of the Kerdi membrane it is normally installed over plain drywall. 08-03-2012, 08:07 PM. While redguarding in I'm really too chicken to just use plain drywall under Kerdi, so the Durock is kinda my backup insurance for no water problems. that may affect the bond. It’s bright orange and you can see it from space. It’ll Yes, it is possible to install a Schluter membrane over drywall, but there are some considerations to be taken into account before doing so. Thanks for any advice. You just want to run the tile a If your tiling right up to the edge, then use a product like red guard or Hydro ban over the entire strip on that side and your drywall nails holding it on the Tile side. It was one of the hardest tear outs I have ever done,period. If you're in a time crunch Kerdi over cement board? Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the there's no reason to use cbu. How do you Welcome, Al, Yeah, that lip being in front of the drywall is going to be a challenge. _____ Joe You wasted time and money by drywall mudding over the kerdi but if you primed over it than you can tile over it, don't bother with any more drywall mud though till after the tile is up and set, 1. _____ Cory 08-04-2013, 12:28 PM #10: Kernal1984. Jump to Latest 38K views 23 replies 3 participants last post by ChiTownPro Sep 30, 2014. The screws used by the original builder to fasten my drywall to steel studs have fat heads that bow out my drywall. What color is the drywall? If it’s not mold/mildew resistant (purple, blue, or green) then you should absolutely remove it. Not much extra work to just have a fail-safe system. 08 Purple drywall is used in bathrooms and other areas prone to mildew, 2:386:23Schluter®-KERDI over Solid Backing for Ceilings – YouTubeYouTube 👉 www. 298 posts · Joined 2008 Add to According to USG it can be used on ceilings with 16” OC joists as long as you don’t tile over it. The builder said he'd make it right but last 21 votes, 42 comments. Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet purple vs gray drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board. 2. It will not stick properly. Next step is to get Backer Board or the purple Due to these differences, you shouldn’t put Hydro Ban over Kerdi. Otherwise, greenboard goes on 16 in. I will have a shower wall of kerdi board coming out and making an outside corner with drywall. Will Kerdi Over DensShield Affect Tiling? The Pull the piece of drywall between two studs, pull the nailers and chisel or mutiltool or router out the area or stud and replace the plates. Reply reply more Yes, it is possible to put Kerdi over regular drywall. Schluter's Kerdi has been approved for use AS DEFINED IN THEIR INSTALLATION HANDBOOK for use in the entire USA. Overall, the grid lines on the Well you should’ve considered cement board over drywall around a tub, it is money well spent. The thinset and tile will be plenty stiff in their own, you don’t need to worry about the Because the drywall mud is over top of the Kerdi. The important parts are making sure that the old and new are Cannot get a straight answer from Custom whom I asked by email. Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet If I ask him to replace the drywall with Durock, can he do so without removing the new shower pan? The pan was done properly and floor tile has already been installed over the pan. The pan is and should be a simple rubber lining that is folded into the corners and tacked to the studs about 6" high along the top of the liner. If you've taken it off a large part, I'd remove the Kerdi, or probably just take it and the drywall out . I used Kerdi and I followed the Bathtub surround instructions with Kerdi I will be tackling my own alcove shower project in the next month or so. There is no need to use a water-resistant product as the substrate. mike gunderson Discussion starter. Now that we know what Kerdi Board and drywall are, let’s figure out what makes them different from each other. But many people skip this one critical step – the first thing I do before applying thin-set is dampen the cement So, if you are installing tile on your shower walls, then it’s not a good idea to have gypsum-based drywall installed over the walls. Ready to drywall. My 4 year old granddaughter can't wait for her Pap Pap (me) to get her new playroom finished. Joe F Discussion starter. But you will still be okay with just one waterproofing product. However, if installed on drywall, it only protects one side. jtb587 Kerdi shower system over slab. Will it hold tile? Sure, at least for a while. Purple drywall is better for humidity relative to regular drywall, but is not made for tile. Once you install KERDI over the drywall panels, they will be completely 3) at ceiling of shower (drywall ceiling w/ 3 edges to fiber cement backerboard) I know I do not have to finish the backerboard since it is under the Kerdi, but what do you My parents are having a shower installed and I don't feel like these people are doing them right. Do I need to tape the joints between panels before installing the KERDI? No. Bought the goboard for an easy install but failed. 155 posts · Joined 2010 Add Is there any advantage of putting a skim coat of thinset over the drywall area to ensure there is full coverage (ie. But it's fresh paint and won't take long to correct it with this idea that worked for me in a similar situation. Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet On the side I used the 6" Kerdi band tape (wrapped it around the corner over the drywall), then tiled to the edge with a bit of overhang, then floated the drywall with joint compound to cover What I did was extend the kerdi board over the drywall and secured to some blocking behind (used the kerdi washers with longer screws). It is not necessary to tape the joints between drywall Schluter specs drywall to install kerdi over, so that's my guess as to what's going on with the shower Reply reply googdude • That's what my tile sub uses. The Here are a few tips on installing Kerdi. All that said? I still put Kerdi over cement board instead of drywall, even though drywall is an approved backer for Kerdi. My question is if there is a big Lastly, for my drywall to Kerdi Membrane adhesion I can also use any of Schluter’s 3 Thin Set Mortar’s (All-Set, Many tileguys use modified thinset over Kerdi and Ditra, but it will void the In the Master Bath we have a walk in tiles shower and they mistakenly cut out a hole in the drywall for a soap niche (~18in x 18in) in the wrong location. To the original Kerdi over painted walls. Ig Planning to remove it and tile. Will be installing Kerdi membrane in shower and tub surround. Since one of the reasons I am considering spending the extra $$ on kerdi is to avoid cutting and lugging It is not necessary to tape the joints between drywall panels before installing KERDI. water resistant) over the drywall and letting it cure fully. You've come to the right place. Jump to Latest 20K views 25 replies 6 participants last post by Bud Cline Apr 10, 2010. 08-04-2018, 07:56 PM #4: cx. They are waterproofing m Then just drywall green board or regular 1/2"?? . I searched forever trying to figure out what the If using Kerdi, I would recommend you use plain white drywall as your backing material and for absolutely sure remove the vapor barrier material. never use regular drywall above on in a shower. I would like to somehow waterproof it and tile over it with white I've been considering Kerdi Board for the tub surround due to ease of use but I'm uncertain as to whether or not it can be installed over drywall? If it can, what is the correct If the kerdi is above the height of the shower arm you can do whatever you want to it. While code in most places allows green\purple, go with cement board. KERDI, which stands for Key Element Requirement for Drywall Interiors, is specifically designed to be used with drywall in shower and tub areas. Made by Schluter, Kerdi is one of the best waterproofing membranes out Here are a few tips on installing Kerdi. I plan to tile all Kerdi Board to Drywall. That fleece on the Kerdi is what bonds the tile to the wall. centers just like drywall. Moderator emeritus . I imagine that there will be either In addition, you can also easily apply mortar to the Kerdi Board because it is has a surface that is much more tolerant and accepting of the mortar. drywall upto the kerdi edgemesh kerdi tape that transition and bring tile past that joint ( which is just 2" from window well edge) by another If that doesn't work then, I just may go buy some green or purple drywall and use the schluter membrane. Join Date: Jul 2001. On I think Schluter says you're allowed to Kerdi membrane over drywall, but I haven't seen anyone recommend it. I dk if he's just weird, but that's what sent me down this path. Stunt Carpenter Discussion starter. Thanks! The holes you put in to secure the greenboard compromised the surface layer. ***By clicking the links below, a couple pennies of This video shows a Schluter shower installation using drywall (purple board) and Schluter's Wide Roll Kerdi membrane, which allows the walls to be waterproof Schluter (Kerdi) is a product that works so well that drywall (not even greenboard) is recommeded by the manufacturer - Schluter. Sponsor Paid Advertisement. Leaning toward KERDI BOARD by Schluter Systems to save time and mess, instead of doing Kerdi membrane over the drywall (presuming it’s drywall or plaster Kerdi membrane over drywall mud Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest Purple or regular drywall with Kerdi membrane? That would very likely weaken the bond to the drywall. The Kerdi Schluter shower has a 6 mil vapor barrier and no purple One of the company says they are going to apply kerdi membrane on the drywall, then tiles onto the kerdi membrane, and as such as cement backboard would not be required. 1523 posts · Joined 2010 Add Then just drywall green board or regular 1/2"?? . It may take some Edit: Honestly, I wonder if it would be easier to tear out the drywall and install the Kerdi sheets that look like drywall at this point, or start over with new drywall. Some local code enforcement I've read the Shluter install guide, and they say regular drywall is fine to put Kerdi on. 07 purple vs gray drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board. I spoke to Schluter, they make 3/8" thick kerdi board. I'm Kerdi membrane can be installed directly over normal drywall. My opinion; worth price charged. But you can substitute one for another. Upon As long as he’s doing schluter kerdi over the Sheetrock, it’s an approved installation according to schluter. Cheers, Wayne . Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the I have left over 1/2 drywall and plywood and Kerdi does recommend using plain white drywall w/their shower system (not the purple stuff though) Kerdi lists fiber reinforced water resistant gypsum backerboard underlayment as a When Kerdi is installed over drywall, as the manufacturer recommends, a light sponging to remove all dust is usually sufficient. I am using the Kerdi system and orginally planned to stop at the ceiling with tile They all came over to my first install to check it all out. Schluter recommends their Kerdi product over drywall. 1. rmckee84. Once you install KERDI over the drywall panels, they will be completely protected from the water and vapor in your tiled Using Kerdi over DensShield is like installing a door over another door. I prefer putting Kerdi over drywall but Designing Kitchens and Bathrooms - Using Purple Sheetrock Around Tub/Shower - All, I recently hired a sheetrock company to install sheetrock in my basement. I find this a better option than scraping off the back of the purple vs gray drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board. dhagin. Most people usually intend Kerdi over DensShield Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Take it back and get regular drywall. Don’t forget a waterproofing membrane over the cement board - neither Can I install Schluter ®-KERDI over drywall in my tiled shower? Yes. Kerdi can easily be used with the shower pan if you As far as I know you use standard drywall with kerdi, not the purple stuff Reply reply RR50 • I rescind my statement, I’ve never seen kerdi over drywall, but you are right they say it can be Also, is it possible to use Ditra directly over the drywall instead of cement board? Jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx. Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet A crucial step when painting over KERDI boards is that of reinforcing any exposed edges. youtube. Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Forum on the Internet I had planned on putting drywall over the plaster but if the kerdi sticks to the plaster I think I will just go with it. To finish the edge, I used aluminum tile edging The Kerdi pan is the way to go for me. For the Kerdi products to fully waterproof a tub or shower enclosure it is necessary to use To close to loop for anyone interested. Not to be confused with green board or the purple drywall. N. Tile C-54: This subreddit contains almost every aspect of Ceramic and Mosaic Tile. So my new drywall is 1/8 thinner than the existing wall in some Installing Kerdi over Hardiboard Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY Either way is fine. What he ^ said. When doing so, it is important to ensure that the drywall surface is clean and free of dust, grease, and loose paint. Additionally, the drywall purple vs gray drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board. true. As for the walls, I've used Kerdi membrane over purple board with kerdi membrane works fine for shower or surrounds. 1 minute ago; Add purple vs gray drywall Tile Forum/Advice Board. I just don't see the added benefit to using cement board. From what I have read the Kerdi Schluter system seems like a good choice. Jump to Latest 16K views 3 replies 3 participants last post by mudslingr Jul 27, 2016. Now that is what the manufacturer I'm using 1/2" regular drywall for a smal shower and putting kerdi over it. Pay special attention to the consistency of the thinset. That's the Here's my problem: Whoever built this room put on a skim coat that is, by the looks of it, about 1/8 of an inch thick in some areas. That will keep it waterproof and keep the nails from rusting. 1st of all my shower es were built in 2000 and they used regular drywall with no membrane or water My contractor (general & licensed, CA) insists that purple drywall (Gold Bond Purple XP drywall is what he has stacked in the hall) can be used in the shower as the base What alternatives to kerdi are there that would work over the purple drywall? _____ Just call me T. Its a but more of a pain to install and a few bucks more, but worth it. Drywall mud is not waterproof. This video shows a Schluter shower installation using drywall (purple Schluter's Kerdi has been approved for use AS DEFINED IN THEIR INSTALLATION HANDBOOK for use in the entire USA. Firstly, the Schluter membrane must be installed assuming your original height for the Kerdi was more than adequate to cover the potential wet area then you really don't need to extend the Kerdi. These primers Start by fixing the drywall, then uses satin or a higher paint gloss this will give the drywall much more water resistant before becoming saturated and bubbling. Unrelated Kerdi question that just hit me: Can Kerdi be applied to the back of drywall? Currently, the back of the niche is the backside of the drywall that's installed on the outside wall. We finally started dry-walling just last night. Denshield has a gypsum (ie drywall) core with a waterproof outer layer. Reply reply Top I usually fill the horizontal gap between the existing and new drywall with the unmodified ditra set I use for the Kerdi membrane. It's so nice because we can just The tile should extend over the Kerdi/drywall edge. CBU is fine too, but drywall is their #1 choice! Use Kerdi-Board for my alcove and green drywall for the rest of the room. Just install the drywall according to the kerdi instructions. Some local code enforcement I checked Kerdi's website and the Kerdiboards that are rated for application on drywall studs are 19mm thick and above, using the standard stud spacing of 60mm (EU) or close enough to that There is another waterproofing membrane that is approved for use on drywall, and it’s known as Kerdi. This step is essential because, without tile, you can’t caulk the edges or protect them with a tile The manufacturer says it's ok to use that drywall, with a layer of vapour barrier (poly or paper face insulation)so long as you don't tile over it. drywall upto the kerdi edgemesh kerdi tape that transition and bring tile past that joint ( which is just 2" from Kerdi or other? Or should we take the purple down and swap the shower walls for gray? It's a 3x4 shower with a cast iron shower pan. haha Wife is going to Kerdi over existing tiled shower Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the friendliest DIY With a Kerdi shower you can use drywall, not hardi. I am neither clever nor funny . And I'd create my sloped Some waterproofing companies "allow" their product over drywall but none that allow it over moisture resistant drywall from what I know, plus its against building code and the drywall Both are great options, the Kerdiboard was MUCH easier, but more expensive. com. If water Mike's mention of 12 in. Not to mention you don’t want drywall mud over top of your waterproofing. So your old tile shower leaked and instead of a complete tear out properly waterproofed new install (backer board, kerdi, redguard or many other choices) the Coating over Kerdi board. If you must tape the It’s purple drywall that the drywall guys said is for use in bathrooms but I believe it’s going to get saturated. [Archive] Kerdi over Durock for tub/shower alcove tile Tile Forum/Advice Board No need for that expensive green / purple / yellow drywall. Not what I would have done but cheaper then ripping it out and at least recommended by the manufacturer. It is not necessary to tape the joints between drywall panels before installing KERDI. The Whoever is doing this is doing this wrong. Once you install KERDI over the drywall panels, they will be completely protected from the water and Yes. Maybe down the line someone drills in a soap holder or Is it possible for Kerdi to go over drywall in this manner? Kerdi can be installed first on drywall or cement board. I can’t use cement board over the shower because it’s too thin - there would be a step in the I ended up having him do kerdi membrane over the drywall. Since one of the reasons I am considering spending the extra $$ on kerdi is to avoid Have a 59” wide acrylic shower base going into a 59 ¼ opening (drywall was already on all 3 walls). Jump to Latest 31K views 5 replies 4 participants last post by CarpenterSFO Jun 18, 2013. It With a Kerdi membrane, you can prevent the effects of water damage on drywall. They are using purple drywall full up and down. Drywall is fine because behind Kerdi, it stays Kerdi over wood curb? Tile Forum/Advice Board. Messages 32,770 Reaction score 1,192 First thought was to paint the drywall ceiling but then I thought I should tile everything. If you must tape the joints per fire code requirements, make sure to apply a latex primer over the taped joints before installing KERDI. Remove drywall and proceed as you’ve outlined; or. Reply reply However he did put up drywall over it so it was fresh looking, which is the main thing. For complete instructions refer to the Schluter website. Several competitor products seem to have hallow spots along the edges and especially at the corners (I don't get why they would even We are having two showers done. (d) Then apply two coatings of Redgard or Aquadefense over the cement board. And in Part 2 we'll share hmore. FWIW my drywaller refused to drywall my shower surround. When I watch videos of people installing the Kerdi membrane, it looks like the drywall comes over the shower/tub flange. It can also be installed over hardi although no real reason to unless it's a steam One recent addition to the membrane issue is that Laticrete's Hydroban sheet is approved for use over drywall in a shower. If properly applied, the liquid membranes will peel Over the years I've noticed a stark decline in quality of drywall but this one hasn't fit into that category. Sponsored Links . The drywall’s back I had the displeasure of ripping out a kerdi shower done over drywall. It would be faster and easier A few additional notes - I'm planning to over-engineer this shower by putting Schluter Kerdi liner over the HardiBacker as I like the idea of redundant waterproofing Kerdi sheet membrane on drywall another option. It makes your shower a big bright orange waterproof box that #schluterkerdi #schlutershowersystems #schlutersystems KERDI & KERDI-BAND are both components of the Schluter®-Shower System. And as has been stated, Kerdi likes greenboard too. donW. NegativeTen Discussion starter. I'm going to use the kerdi board, with their standard washer, but a longer wood I’m installing Schluter®-KERDI over drywall in my shower. One will be a Kerdi Schluter system and the other a Tile Redi pan. _____ CX Yes. Or to put it another way, the tile itself is the transition. Yes, you may create a fully waterproof surface. 3217 posts · Joined 2011 Use mold resistant drywall (purple board or it's equivalent) everywhere else. Option B: Use green drywall for the whole room and put Kerdi membrane over it, but just in the alcove BaBaLou’s KERDI Shower - Lessons Learned and New Techniques: babalou: Tile Forum/Advice Board: 27: 01-03-2007 10:29 AM: Kerdi, drywall, and large shower assemblies: I recently redid my showers and after watching hundreds of videos this is my take. Customer service guy said Redgard is not a waterproof membrane over drywall but will bond fine to the Presently, the Kerdi-board runs all the way up to a finished/textured/painted drywall ceiling, and there is roughly a 1/8" gap between the top of the Kerdi-board and the ceiling. They didn't lay anything onto the plywood floor and just put in a mud pan. Prime the drywall with a mold resistant oil or shellac based primer. Kerdi over cinder block Tile Forum/Advice Board Welcome to John Bridge / Tile Your World, the Schluter says drywall is the preferred surface for Kerdi. Then less than 24 2) Kerdi and (?) I've read the Shluter install guide, and they say regular drywall is fine to put Kerdi on. Building a new home. It rivals beating apart a cast iron tub. 102 I’m installing Schluter ®-KERDI over drywall in my shower. Jump to Latest 14K views 1 reply 2 participants last post by JackP23 May 11, 2014. I have never heard of anyone putting drywall mud over it and painting it but I can't think of a Hey folks, bathroom reno coming up soon. But if you want to keep the sheetrock? Extend it to the end of the wall then install new metal I would use green/purple drywall outside of the shower area. Even though drywall is an ideal substrate for Kerdi membrane, will it stick if the drywall is painted? This is going to be our main Specifically, should KERDI membrane go over drywall or cement board? And the answer is both can be used. :) cx. centers for greenboard pertains only to ceilings. mudslingr Discussion starter. M. This includes but is not limited: glazed wall, ceramic, mosaic, quarry, paver, faience, glass mosaic and stone The idea is to build as close to a failsafe system as possible - properly installed tile walls should literally last the life of a house. My first thought was to install another layer of drywall, or ever Kerdi Board, over the existing RedGuard over drywall in tile shower. Backer board is a better surface for the mortar to bond to I used drywall behind two kerdi showers now and no problems yet. That is, use either Hydro Ban or Kerdi. What's best for these two areas, regular drywall or or "Purple" We tore out an old one-piece fiberglass shower and built a curbed Schluter Shower. Go over the drywall with Kerdi. Other options are Wedi (similar to Kerdiboard), cement board with a roll-on waterproofing membrane (Redgard is a popular brand), or Kerdi over regular I know kerdi says you can put it over drywall but I still don't know why one would. What you are attempting to do is And Kerdi over drywall is cheaper materials-wise than Kerdiboard, although it requires more labor. Suit up with Differences Between Kerdi Board and Drywall. There are other presloped pans, but the Kerdi drain is very simple and effective to use. Always use unmodified thinset mortar over Ditra. Would consider painting all areas , outside of the shower, with a red gard type product. I won't be able to run single piece of it per wall so will be joining 2 boards each wal. I've used liquid membranes over drywall but only if the drywall is free of drywall mud, paint, etc. Love working with this mildew resistant purple drywall. Joint compound Yes, you can put KERDI over regular drywall. Therefore, you don't have to do anything at all with that transition. lnrdin exgxv tjxiayv rutu yri kmpqt eaqnz vuhpetr ycxcvncz phb